Iron Age Connectivity in the Carpathian Basin Târgu Mureş
13–15 October 2017
Friday, 13th October 2017
–16.30 Arrival17.00–17.20 Opening
17.20–18.40 Session 1
18.40–19.00 Break
19.00–20.40 Session 2
20.40– Dinner
Saturday, 14th October 2017
09.00–10.40 Session 310.40–11.00 Break
11.00–12.40 Session 4
12.40–15.00 Lunch
15.00–16.40 Session 5
16.40–17.00 Break
17.00–18.40 Session 6
19.30– Dinner
Sunday, 15th October 2017
09.00–17.00 Castles Tour:Gorneşti / Brâncoveneşti / Gurghiu
Lunch at White Horse Restaurant Gorneşti
Program
Friday, 13th October
Session 1
Chair: Marija Ljuština
Sylvie Griot (Paris, FR) – Nathalie Ginoux (Paris, FR)
Trans-Carpathian connections in long-distance and interregional context during the Second Iron AgeMaciej Karwowski (Vienna, AT) – Jiří Militký (Prague, CZ)
The Oberleiserberg and its cross-regional connectionsPeter C. Ramsl (Vienna, AT / Nitra, SK)
Interregional relations and connections in Central Europe’s Iron AgeDiscussions
Session 2
Chair: Marko Dizdar
Marko Dizdar (Zagreb, HR)
Reflections about some specific finds of the female costume in the South-eastern Carpathian Basin – Can we recognize female mobility in the Middle La Tène?Ivan Drnić (Zagreb, HR)
Iron Age settlement in Sisak (Croatia) and its position in the Iron Age communication networkVladimir Mihajlović (Novi Sad, RS)
Changing connectivity in the Late Iron Age south PannoniaMarek Budaj (Bratislava, SK) – Radoslav Čambal (Bratislava, SK) – Branislav Kovár (Nitra, SK)
Late La Tène oppidum in BratislavaDiscussions
Saturday, 14th October
Session 3
Chair: Mitja Guštin
Károly Tankó (Budapest, HU)
Celts and Scythians in the Late Iron Age cemetery at GyöngyösAttila Horváth M. (Budapest, HU)
Southern connections of the Celtic cemetery in CsepelPéter Kovács F. (Szolnok, HU)
Traces of local interactions and regional connections in the Middle Tisza RegionSándor Berecki (Târgu Mureş, RO)
Connected elites. Middle La Tène chariots in the Carpathian BasinDiscussions
Session 4
Chair: Maciej Karwowski
Aurel Rustoiu (Cluj-Napoca, RO) – Sándor Berecki (Târgu Mureş, RO)
Silver jewellery in the early La Tène cemeteries from Banat. The hybridization of body ornamentsAndrei Georgescu (Timişoara, RO)
A warrior’s beauty? Variations of a burial custom throughout the Carpathian BasinMalvinka Urák (Cluj-Napoca, RO) – Corina Ionescu (Cluj-Napoca, RO / Tatarstan, RU) – Ágnes Gál (Cluj-Napoca, RO)
Setting or following the trend? Double-lyre stamped pottery from settlement features of the Middle Mureș ValleyPaul Pupeză (Cluj-Napoca, RO)
Between Celts, Thracians and Greeks. The cemetery from Cepari, RomaniaDiscussions
Session 5
Chair: Peter C. Ramsl
Horea Pop (Zalău, RO) – Iosif Vasile Ferencz (Deva, RO)
La Tène mobility in the Şimleu Depression. About a Celtic grave found in Zalău, RomaniaIosif Vasile Ferencz (Deva, RO)
Middle La Tène settlement network in south-western TransylvaniaMariana Egri (Cluj-Napoca, RO)
Between contact zones and contested peripheries – meanings and functions in the eastern Carpathian Basin during the Late Iron AgeAndreea Drăgan (Cluj-Napoca, RO)
Connecting land, connecting people. The role of the Danube in the flow of objects into Dacia during the late La TèneDiscussions
Session 6
Chair: Mariana Egri
Adrian Cătălin Căsălean (Cluj-Napoca, RO)
Mureş valley as a route of interactions between southern Transylvania and northern Italy during the Late Iron AgeMarija Ljuština (Belgrade, RS) – Teodora Radišić (Belgrade, RS)
La Tène agricultural implements in the Vojvodina Region, Serbia: tradition and innovationIvan Vranić (Belgrade, RS)
‘Celtic’ connection in the Central Balkans during the 3rd–1st centuries BC: a case study of the site Kale-KrševicaDaniel Spânu (Bucharest, RO)
Two batches of late La Tène weapons and adornments discovered around Târgu Jiu, RomaniaDiscussions
Abstracts
Trans-Carpathian connections in long-distance and interregional context during the Second Iron Age
Sylvie Griot – Nathalie Ginoux
The Oberleiserberg and its cross-regional connections
Maciej Karwowski – Jiří Militký
Interregional relations and connections in Central Europe’s Iron Age
Peter C. Ramsl
The first part of this paper deals with the late Hallstatt and early La Tène burials: here, we can see strong connections between Lower Austria and western French areas like Champagne, Ardennes, Picardie and Ille de France. Next to it, also in settlement material can be seen long distance connections and innovations in ceramics.
Another point are the evident connections of ‘armed persons’ between Eastern Austria and other parts of the Keltiké like todays Hungary, Croatia, Romania, France and Swiss. At this part, also the discussion about the sense and meaning of the term ‘warrior’ will be mentioned.
Finally, it will be discusses how these networks, communication systems etc. worked and what was their influence to people and society.
Reflections about some specific finds of the female costume in the south-eastern Carpathian Basin – Can we recognize female mobility in the Middle La Tène?
Marko Dizdar
Iron Age settlement in Sisak (Croatia) and its position in the Iron Age communication network
Ivan Drnić
The settlement kept its role as an exchange and production centre also in the Late Iron Age, when the Carpathian basin became an integral part of the La Tène culture. Archaeological material, primarily metal finds, confirms contacts not only with the neighbouring Mokronog group of the Taurisci, but also with communities in the upper Kupa (the Vinica group) and middle Una valleys to the south. The finds that are indicating certain contacts with the south-eastern Pannonia, which was inhabited by the communities known from the classical sources as the Scordisci, are of the special interest. The role in the supraregional network of the Late Iron Age is confirmed by the presence of the various ‘Celtic’ coins, Roman Republican denarii and drachmas of Dyrrhachium, as well as the rare fragments of the Late Republican bronze vessels. The site’s exceptional position in the Pannonian Late Iron Age communication network is also confirmed by the ancient texts (Strabo, Appian) which mention it under the name of Segest(ic)a. In 35 BC the Late Iron Age settlement was conquered by the Roman army which established the garrison at this position as the key point for further advance into the Pannonian plain.
Changing connectivity in the late Iron Age south Pannonia
Vladimir D. Mihajlović
Against traditional perspective it is possible to argue that the late Iron Age of southern Pannonia and central Balkans operated not by ethnic or tribal alterations but through construction and negotiation of various types and levels of overall connectivity. I will try to propose the outline of three mayor switches of how these relationalities worked and were changed in the course of last 500 years BCE. Starting from the period of so called princely graves the first substantial transition took place in 4th c. BCE and led to the era of long distance, highly volatile and short-termed connections of very mobile, heterogeneous and predominately martial groups. The networks they had constructed were characterized by changeable and ‘week’ mutual links which have left specific archaeological picture of very rare and ephemeral settlement traces, necropolises of relatively long timespans but generally small number of deceased, and roughly similar material culture in wide geographical area (so called La Tène koine). This kind of connectivity was replaced during 2nd c. BCE with a different type of networking characterized by higher sedentism and binding to land (through newly established settlements), entrenched settlements as social focal points, diversification and intensification of economic activities, increased number of necropolises and buried individuals, and possible emergence of micro-regional polities. The period was marked by stronger connections inside local or short-distance level, meaning more stable, profound and interdependent relations of the actors involved. In the same time, this modus operandi could have enabled increased territoriality of the late La Tène communities as well as greater social diversification within them. The final change came with incorporation of the southern Pannonia and the central Balkans with the Roman Empire when social connectivity was determined by Roman administrative and hierarchical structure. This meant gradual definition of relationalities built through differentiations peculiar to imperial socio-political order which involved specific determination of statuses of population, land and settlements deeply transforming local social life.
Late La Tène Oppidum in Bratislava
Marej Budaj – Radoslav Čambal – Branislav Kovár
In the area of Bratislava, late La Tène period is connected with Celtic tribe of Boii, who may have settled in the area of current capital of Slovakia either after their defeat in northern Italy in 191 BC, or they had penetrated here under the pressure of the Old Germans from the northwest, in the second third of the 1st century BC. It may be this second migration that Caesar is mentioning in his writings as an attack of Boii on the Noreia, the centre of the Celtic kingdom of Noricum, between the years 64/63 BC.
Roughly in this time, or shortly before, the second wave of Boii settled in the wider area of today's Bratislava. Obviously an important role was played by region's advantageous location at the crossroads of trade routes – a Danubian route, leading from the west to the east, and the Amber route, commencing in Aquileia and heading north, along the Morava river, up to the Baltic Sea.
The centre of tribe was at the oppidum of Bratislava, which acropolis was located at today’s Castle Hill. Foundations of stone architectures, undoubtedly works of Roman builders, were discovered in the area of Bratislava Castle. Some of the buildings had mosaic floors. They testify very tight commercial and perhaps political relations of the local elite with the territory of the Roman Empire. Mutual trade is also documented by countless findings of Roman amphorae.
La Tène archaeological finds are not concentrated solely on the acropolis. From Bratislava we know several other places with intensive Celtic presence. From the area of Old City we have a documented existence of a massive stone wall. We know about a specialised settlement engaged in the production of ceramics in wider city centre.
From the area of Bratislava, there are several depots of silver coins, which were minted in several sizes and followed examples of ancient Roman coinage. In the period of the flourishing of the oppidum, large silver tetradrachs of Biatec-type are minted, dated back to the 70–40 BC. The archaeological material contains several foreign imports (Dacian, Germanic, Norician and Roman origin).
The power of Boii tribe was broken by the wars with Dacian king Burebista, which could have taken place between the years 48–44 BC. According to the most recent knowledge, the occupation was only short-lived, and the area of today's Bratislava soon came under the influence of the neighbouring Celtic tribe of Norici, what could be assumed looking at some archaeological finds (bronze imports, pottery with thickened club-shaped rims, etc.).
The intermittent times during the conflict from the middle of the 1st century BC are also proven by the find of the catastrophic horizon under the rock-cliff of the Castle Hill, at the site of historical suburb of Vydrica. Several scattered human skeletons were found there, all unburied. Two catastrophic horizon were found in Old Town, too.
In 15 BC, the kingdom of Norici was incorporated into the Roman Empire. This is probably related to the presence of the Roman outpost on the nearby Devín Castle Hill, where the remains of the Celtic population survived up to the first third of the 1st century AD. With the arrival of the Germans, Celtic occupation of the south-western Slovakia came to end in the first half of the 1st century. Descendants of the Boii lived under Roman domination only in the areas south of the river Danube, where they gradually assimilated.
All these contexts are confirming a privileged position of the oppidum in Bratislava in the late La Tène period.
Celts and Scythians in the Late Iron Age cemetery at Gyöngyös
Károly Tankó
Southern connections of the Celtic cemetery in Csepel
Attila Horváth M.
Even so, it might not be a bold statement that the findings of the Celtic cemetery on Csepel Island produce a European collection that cannot be fitted into any Celtic findings as a whole, however, it can be connected to the whole culture of the eastern Celts.
Traces of local interactions and regional connections in the Middle Tisza Region
Péter F. Kovács
In the period of Middle Iron Age the settlement finds and the burial costumes alike reflect the earlier autochthone population and the cultural impact of ‘new comers’ from the Eastern European steppe region. Its new mixture shapes the main attributes of the Vekerzug culture in the Middle Tisza Region. In a unique case the influence of classical Hellenistic civilisation can also be detected on a Scythian pseudo kylix shaped bowl.
The interaction between the local Scythian or Vekerzug people and the Celts or La Tène people is more visible during the first part of the Late Iron Age. Well known examples known from the cemetery of Jászberény–Cserőhalom. The cultural exchange can be illustrated with several grave goods, i.e. handmade potteries with strong Vekerzug style attributes. Another example can be mentioned from the vicinity of Kunszentmárton where the burial costumes show the result of cultural exchange. The interaction is less visible on the settlement sites. Since the first steps of archaeological processing (washing, restoration, inventorying) is still backward only a few example can be mentioned. Such as Tiszapüspöki–Holt-Tisza-part site, where a small settlement section and a house with mixed style potteries were excavated. Other examples can be found at Jászberény–Almási tanya, Túrkeve–Burkus or Jászkisér–Ludas.
However, no doubt that examining of identity and its changes is one of the most important and difficult crucial points of the Late Iron Age archaeology of the Great Hungarian Plain.
Another point is to map extra- and intraregional contacts and study non-local goods and materials. During the Iron Age stone tools i.e. millstones, grindstones, wet stones could form one of these groups in question as being originated in the North Hungarian Mountains. In the Middle Iron Age cowry also shows different connections, as it most likely came from the Pontic area. In the La Tène period there are two other material groups: a raw material, namely the graphite and a product, the sapropelit bracelet. Both most likely come from the territory of Bohemia. In the case of graphite archaeometrical studies confirm the origin, while the sapropelit show a more complex background.
Coins form another source to imagine networks of the Late Iron Age. However there are only three coins in the study area with a probable connection to Transylvania.
Through these examples it is possible to recognize a multidimensional and transforming network during the Iron Age. In the early period Besenyszög hoard shows dominant eastern influences and local styles, and in the middle phase local traditions are still detectable along with links to the Pontic region. During the Late Iron Age the system has deeply changed. Interactions between the two cultural blocks, i.e. the Vekerzug and the La Tène cultures can be sporadically but clearly detected, and in some cases emergence of a new identity is also visible. The strong eastern and Pontic connections became weaker, and limited to Transylvania, while Western influence dominates the raw materials, and non-local goods.
Consequently, the Middle Tisza region is adapting the cultural trends of the Great Hungarian Plain in the first millennia BC, which will be presented through a number of local examples.
Connected elites. Middle La Tène chariots in the Carpathian Basin
Sándor Berecki
Silver jewellery in the early La Tène cemeteries from Banat. The hybridization of body ornaments
Aurel Rustoiu – Sándor Berecki
The integration of indigenous population into the new communities which appeared after the arrival of the Celtic groups differed from one area or social group to another. In some cases the locals adopted costumes or body ornaments specific to the newcomers, pointing to the tendency to integrate themselves into the new communities, even if certain funerary practices of local origin were still preserved. In other cases, mostly within the elites, certain traditional ornaments were combined with costume accessories of LT origin, leading to the hybridization of costume assemblages which were meant to ‘communicate’ a particular social identity in relation with both the indigenous population and the newcomers.
On the other hand, the colonist groups preserved in general their own dressing style which is illustrated by the unchanged use, typologically and functionally, of certain ornaments and garment accessories specific to their Central European homeland. Moreover, the social contacts established between the elites of the communities from Banat and those from the northern and north-western Balkans, as well as the individual mobility, played an important role in the circulation of certain ‘fashionable’ elements, like jewellery and garment accessories. These were taken over and adapted to the dressing requirements of each community or social group.
A warrior’s beauty? Variations of a burial custom throughout the Carpathian Basin
Andrei Georgescu
The aim of this paper is the study of the distribution and variation of this burial custom in the Carpathian Basin, from a statistical and contextual point of view. The methodology relies on the analysis of variables of the individual burial (objects association, position, funerary rite etc.) but also on some of the structural aspects of the entire community (percentage of warriors, geography etc.). Due to this aspect, the study focuses on the major necropolises from different areas of the Carpathian Basin. These kinds of cemeteries offer a good insight into the social structure and cultural connections of the communities that were buried there. Another purpose of this paper is to observe how this custom is influenced by the social status or gender of the deceased and how these manifestations vary from one community to another.
Burial rituals are dynamic phenomena that are subject to both change and continuity especially in environments characterized by high degrees of individual and group mobility. It is for this reason that the present paper tries to bring new insights into the cultural connections and the construction of individual and group identities by pointing out the similarities and difference, the presence or absence, and the frequency of a burial custom present in the entire Carpathian Basin.
Making or following the trend? Middle La Tène double-lyre stamped pottery from the Middle Mureş Valley (Romania)
Malvinka Urák, Corina Ionescu, Ágnes Gál
The Orosia stamped brownish-cream potsherds were unearthed in a dwelling and in a bi-chambered pottery kiln, therefore are not related to a funerary site. The stamped sherds were stacked within the firing chamber together with other pottery remnants, such as graphite-coated and burnished ones. The stamped pottery from Cuci has a brownish-cream body coated with a black slip. The sherds were found also in a dwelling.
Archaeologically, there several questions arising here. Is this stamped pottery imported or local product? In the latter case, did the local potters copy the motifs due to a ‘fashion trend’ reason? Or these sites were really production places from where the motifs have been spread? Are the sherds in a secondary position, being deposited after the kiln wasn’t used anymore, or are kiln wastes? Are the sherds and their stamped motifs found in the dwelling similar to those found in the kiln? Did the potters use one or more stamping tools, at the same time?
Our preliminary study aims to answer at least to some of the above mentioned questions. Besides the basic archaeological methods, other investigations have been performed. Stereoscopic macroscopy, polarized light optical microscopy and X-ray diffraction studied the macroscopical features, the mineralogical composition, microstructure and microtexture of the ceramic sherds. The changes in the diffraction patterns allowed inferring some technological aspects, in particular the firing conditions.
Acknowledgments. C.I. and A.G. acknowledge support of project PN-III-P4-ID-PCE-2016-0229 (Romanian Ministry of Education and Ministry of Research). C.I. thanks for the support of “Program of competitive growth of Kazan Federal University among world class academic centers and universities".
Between Celts, Thracians and Greeks. The cemetery from Cepari, Romania
Paul Pupeză
La Tène mobility in the Şimleu Depression. About a Celtic grave found in Zalău, Romania
Horea Pop – Iosif Vasile Ferencz
During the small scale rescue excavations which strictly followed the path of the pipe ditch from Zalău–Dealul Lupului (Wolf Hill) lead by Sanda and Dan Băcueț Crișan, in 2005 among other finds – severely affected by agriculture – from the Stone and Middle Ages (8th century) two Late Iron Age cremation graves were also uncovered. While one of them was almost entirely destroyed by agriculture (only a few pottery fragments and the burned bones were kept), the second was much better preserved, its inventory consisting of a sword with scabbard, pottery and other objects.
It was supposed for the Şimleu Depression that during the 4th–2nd c. BC ‘Celtic’ La Tène communities did not colonise this region, since discoveries were only known westwards and eastwards of it. The two recently investigated features shred a new light on the importance and the role of this region, allowing us to rethink individual and collective contacts and mobility during the Late Iron Age in Transylvania and northern Romania.
Middle La Tène settlement network in south-western Transylvania
Iosif Vasile Ferencz
Settlements were established on the high terraces and very rarely in the flood plain of the rivers. Settlements are formed by small groups of houses found at considerable distances one from another, like at Lancrăm–Glod, where there were 100 m between two pit houses, or at Morești, where all of the houses were concentrated on a quarter of hectare.
In the analysed micro-region from the Mureş Valley settlements are situated close one to the other, forming a small network of communities with similar habitation characteristics and lifestyle.
Between contact zones and contested peripheries – meanings and functions in the eastern Carpathian Basin during the Late Iron Age
Mariana Egri
Thus a few recent theoretical studies underlined their potential within the so-called network theory, which offers an alternative approach that looks for structures which facilitate the development of intensive connectivity at different spatial and social scales, and consequently, is less focused on economic factors or elite actions. Network analysis provides a series of useful tools that helps our understanding of the variable spatial, social and cultural dynamics of human interactions and their equally different outcome.
Some recent anthropological and archaeological studies have shown that both the ‘contact zones’ and the ‘contested peripheries’ are characterized by very dynamic environments which facilitate the development of different types of more-or-less formal connectivities between various social groups or even individuals, often reaching distant territories and communities. They also contributed significantly to the perception of the ‘other’ far away from their formal reach. Thus, at interpretative level, they are especially useful for understanding the relationships established between expanding social-political entities, like the empires, and their neighbours.
Accordingly, the paper is going to analyse, on the basis of some case-studies, the specificities of certain ‘contact zones’ that emerged at the periphery of the eastern Carpathian Basin during the Late Iron Age, as a consequence of the Roman expansion. The analysis is also going to bring into discussion the impact of these ‘contact zones’ on the evolution of local and regional networks of social-political and economic interaction, and their role in shaping the various localized images of the Roman power through time.
Connecting land, connecting people. The role of the Danube in the flow of objects into Dacia during the late La Tène
Andreea Drăgan
Beginning with the first century BC the preponderant influence of the southern Hellenistic cultural milieu in Dacia, signalled by the direct presence of objects or indirectly by the emulation of Hellenistic elements, is replaced by an increasing presence of artefacts from the west, particularly provincial products. Just as before, the introduction of objects into Dacia triggered the creation of original products taking after the new arrivals. The aim of the presentation is to index the finds whose main area of use and production can be identified on the Middle Danube. Based on the distribution of the finds, communication and exchange routes along the Danube and its tributaries will be drawn. In the end, this allows us to observe patterns and phases of interaction between the Middle Danube and the Dacian area, as well as the role played by the Danube in intermediating it.
Mureş Valley as a route of interactions between southern Transylvania and northern Italy during the Late Iron Age
Adrian Cătălin Căsălean
I should try to put ‘in the mirror’ this two sites, because of their location, in Apuseni Mountains, not far one from the other. The archaeological materials will be listed into two separate databases, with their functional purposes, contexts, dating and analogies reanalysed, in order to observe new aspects of the interaction with the roman world. The analysed material will be used to give possible answers to problems regarding the consumers that procured roman imports, their preference and reason for such a purchase, how the Dacian community used those items and what was the signification that those artefacts carried in the ‘barbarian’ society.
Furthermore, a great deal of attention will be given for the means of procuring such items in the ‘barbarian’ area, following the possibility of war-like actions, trading, gift giving and the presence of some roman craftsmen in pre-roman Dacia. After establishing the consumers, the study will emphasize on the importance of the Mureş valley, as a route of interaction. It is known that the Mureş River was navigable as far as Alba Iulia town before the Medieval Age, and also it was the most facile route towards Transylvania from the Danube. The presence of such prosperous fortresses in these Late Iron Ages, as well as others, like the Dacian fortresses from Orăștie mountains, suggest that Dacian communities thrived in the proximity of the Mureş and used it to exchange information, goods and ideas with the ‘world’.
La Tène agricultural implements in the Vojvodina region, Serbia: tradition and innovation
Marija Ljuština – Teodora Radišić
The paper will have focus on the analysis of La Tène agricultural implements from the south Pannonian region of Vojvodina. General archaeological literature on La Tène period in the region mentions a number of such finds from both funerary and settlement contexts. No review of this kind of material has been published up to now, so the first aim of our study is to collect the corpus of the Late Iron Age agricultural implements from the region, which will include both published material and available unpublished items from museums’ collections. A whole range of iron utensils will be included in the analysis, from the tools used for tillage (hoes and ploughshares for ard ploughing) and harvesting (sickles, scythes, billhooks), to the axes with bent fringes, with presumed use in tillage. Re-examination of the published typological determination on the basis of functional attribution using formal criteria will be performed, and consequently an operative typological system which can be further used for easier research of the material will be established.
Comparative analysis of the forms from La Tène and the traditional Hallstattian forms, made not only of iron, but of bronze, bone and antler, will lead us to recognition of traditionalism and/or innovation tendencies. Analogies from a wider area during La Tène will provide possibilities for testing spread of technological innovations around the studied region. Study of agricultural implements from the subsequent Roman period, with checking presence and potential deficiency of certain forms, will give a fresh insight into prolonged use of traditional forms under the changed social conditions. Like many components in everyday life which despite their importance remain on the margins of our interest, the tools used in agriculture can be a valuable indicator of changes or persistent retention of human habits.
‘Celtic’ connection in the central Balkans during the 3rd–1st centuries BC: a case study of the site Kale-Krševica
Ivan Vranić
This paper aims to present the case of Kale-Krševica that is usually interpreted according to the same narrative which supposes that the site is abandoned during the first half of the 3rd century BC, only to be reused again by the ‘Scordicsi’ in the late 2nd and the early 1st centuries BC as a stepping stone in their attacks on Ancient Macedonia and Roman Greece. I will focus on this site’s material culture dated from a period between the third and the late 1st centuries BC in an attempt to scrutinise whether these finds and their context indeed fit so well into the culture-historical narrative and consequent timetable of migrations and raids, or there are some possibilities for different interpretations following more recent theoretical perspectives.
Two batches of late La Tène weapons and adornments discovered around Târgu Jiu, Romania
Daniel Spânu